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AI to Automate Boring Work

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  • The podcast “AI in Action” introduces IBM’s AI experts, Jessica Rockwood and Morgan Carroll, who discuss how AI can take over repetitive, time‑consuming tasks that most employees dislike.
  • Jessica explains that automating data‑preparation and pre‑processing with AI frees up hours each week for strategic, high‑level thinking and decision‑making.
  • Morgan shares that even routine activities like drafting emails can be streamlined by AI, turning mundane work into “super‑powers” for productivity.
  • The conversation highlights that successful AI adoption requires not just new tools, but also changes to business processes, infrastructure, and organizational culture to make AI work for the organization today.

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# AI to Automate Boring Work **Source:** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8) **Duration:** 00:19:33 ## Summary - The podcast “AI in Action” introduces IBM’s AI experts, Jessica Rockwood and Morgan Carroll, who discuss how AI can take over repetitive, time‑consuming tasks that most employees dislike. - Jessica explains that automating data‑preparation and pre‑processing with AI frees up hours each week for strategic, high‑level thinking and decision‑making. - Morgan shares that even routine activities like drafting emails can be streamlined by AI, turning mundane work into “super‑powers” for productivity. - The conversation highlights that successful AI adoption requires not just new tools, but also changes to business processes, infrastructure, and organizational culture to make AI work for the organization today. ## Sections - [00:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8&t=0s) **Turning Boring Tasks into AI** - The hosts introduce an IBM podcast episode that explores how AI can automate tedious work and guides listeners on implementing AI solutions in business processes. - [00:03:04](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8&t=184s) **AI‑Powered Drafting Saves Time** - The speaker explains how AI can quickly generate email drafts, code snippets, and research summaries, speeding up work and helping meet deadlines. - [00:06:05](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8&t=365s) **Beyond Chatbots: AI Assistants for All** - The speaker argues that AI assistants now perform actions—not just converse—and that foundation models enable even small companies to adopt powerful intelligence with minimal proprietary data. - [00:09:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8&t=552s) **Unified AI Assistant Integration** - The speaker explains how AI assistants aggregate data from work and personal calendars, email, and other services to provide daily summaries and proactive task handling, and discusses building such integrations using tools like Watsonx Assistant. - [00:12:22](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8&t=742s) **Choosing the Right LLM** - The speakers discuss how model size and parameter count affect performance, emphasizing task‑specific suitability, cost‑benefit trade‑offs, and the need for human judgment when selecting AI tools. - [00:15:25](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8&t=925s) **AI Assistants and Eliminating Grunt Work** - The speakers argue that AI will become a universal, supportive assistant—requiring new educational awareness, automating repetitive “grunt work,” and freeing humans for creative, strategic tasks—illustrated through IBM’s design‑thinking practice of empathy mapping to pinpoint replaceable duties. - [00:18:31](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGO60Zrdle8&t=1111s) **AI Insights: Time, Models, Future Careers** - The speaker highlights that leveraging AI to reclaim time, selecting the right model for each task, and acquiring AI fluency will be essential for all future careers. ## Full Transcript
0:02We all have something we hate about our job. 0:04Those time sucking tasks that take you away from actually getting your work done. 0:08I know you're thinking about them right now. 0:10But what at the tasks that you dread could be handled not just by someone else, 0:14but by AI. 0:16Welcome to AI in action. 0:17Brought to you by IBM. 0:19I'm Albert Lawrence. 0:20I'm here because I'm a learner. I'm a doer. 0:23I look at a big picture, and I can't help but start asking exactly 0:27how does it work on the inside? 0:29On this podcast, I'm going to be joined by AI experts, 0:32technologists and business leaders alike who are really going to help us 0:35to get beyond the fury of AI and into how we actually put it into practice. 0:40We're all starting to see more and more stories about AI powered outcomes, 0:44but exactly how do I get to those outcomes for my business? 0:49What are the actual steps involved in changing not only my 0:52IT tools and infrastructure, but also my business processes and culture? 0:56Mainly, how do I make AI 0:58I work for me right now. 1:00So let's do it, shall we? 1:02Today I'm joined by Jessica Rockwood and Morgan Carroll. 1:05Jessica is VP client engineering at IBM. 1:08Welcome, Jessica. 1:09Thank you. 1:10Thanks for having me. 1:11Glad that you're here. 1:12And my other guest is Morgan Senior AI engineer in client engineering at IBM. 1:17Welcome, Morgan. 1:18I'm excited to be here. 1:19I bet you're wondering how I chose you for today's episode. 1:23Well, it's not because your work is boring. 1:25Because it's not. 1:26But it's because you work to make the boring stuff easy. 1:30And IBM client engineering is all about making your AI dreams a reality. 1:34So let's take a look at a few places where attention to detail, empathy, 1:39and responsiveness could make or break us if we're being for real for real. 1:43So first off, I'm very curious. 1:45Look, people already don't have enough time to do everything 1:48at the quality and the speed that we expect every day. 1:53Work just seems to have gotten more complicated. 1:55And I'm not alone in this. 1:56So how do you use AI to do the boring stuff that you'd rather not? 2:01Jessica, let's start with you. 2:02For me, it always comes down to 2:04what are the things I hate doing because they're repetitive. 2:08Quite frankly, I don't have to use that many brain cells to do it. 2:11It's all the preparatory work. 2:12So every week I take a look at how are we doing as a business, 2:16what are we doing in the team? 2:18Are we making progress? 2:19I can spend hours just getting data together 2:23and trying to do, let's say, the first pre-processing. 2:26If I can have I do that in a few minutes, that actually gives me 2:29a few hours to do the critical thinking, to think strategically. 2:33What are the next steps to take? 2:34I was telling Morgan earlier, I would love that every time I look 2:38at some data and I think, ooh, I wonder if there could be AI that goes and finds 2:43the right data, does the processing, and gives me back some analysis. 2:47I now have like super powers. 2:50And that time is that's like the most valuable. 2:52invaluable, yes. 2:54And what about you, Morgan? 2:55Okay, I hate to admit it, but writing emails. 2:59I have a I'd rather be writing code. 3:02I have got, like, five points. 3:04I need to make it an email, and I'm like, okay, now how do I phrase this? 3:07So it sounds appropriate? 3:09No, I'm just going to let I do it. For me. 3:10That's going to save me so much time. 3:12And in addition, code generation actually, which is really interesting. 3:16Typically I'm like, how do I write this function in Python? 3:19Maybe 3:19I don't want to go to the documentation, I don't want to read the documentation. 3:22But with code generation I could say, hey, how do I do this? 3:25How do I write this function in? But there it is. 3:28I look like I already have a very clear idea of who I'm speaking with today. Now. 3:31You just admitted you'd rather be writing code than writing emails. So. 3:34Okay, we love it. You're in the right gig, then. 3:36I think of Morgan's example about getting a first draft, 3:39whether it's email or code or, let's say, a history project. 3:44I was working with my daughter. 3:45She needs to come up with a lot of different facts 3:48to support a thesis, and she hates drafting anything 3:52and leveraging a search engine, going out, pulling back 3:55all sorts of forms of information really accelerated her progress on it. 3:59She still had to assess what the search engines 4:02found, because we all know there can be some fake news out there. 4:05You need to kind of do a bit of analytics to understand the source of 4:09what's come back, should you trust it? 4:11But by being able to pull that together in seconds, 4:14you actually can make a deadline. 4:16And that's what matters. 4:17We love it when they can make a deadline. 4:19Awesome. Congratulations to your daughter. 4:20Thank you. 4:21Now, but when we're thinking 4:22about these kinds of solutions that both you and your daughter are using. 4:26I'm curious about the build behind them. 4:28Can you take me a little bit into that, Morgan? 4:30Yeah, definitely. Everything starts with the user, obviously. 4:32So we need to think of what is the user experience going to be like. 4:36So what we want to start with is sort of a conversational flow 4:39like hello user, how are you come up with a persona maybe for the bot, 4:42which is my favorite thing like Barry the bot, a little alliteration. 4:47and then we want to gather data from the user, obviously. 4:50And at some point we're going to call out to a large language 4:52model, we're going to take all of this data and say, hey, here it is. 4:56Do something with it. 4:57Summarize this for me, get an answer, it's going to come back. 5:00And then we present it to the user. 5:02So it's overall a relatively simple process. 5:05Okay I mean you made it sound really easy okay. 5:09But but I know that it really can't be as easy as as you made it sound. 5:14So I'm curious about what problems though the companies are coming up against 5:17when they are trying to figure out how to make these a reality. 5:20Well, so I think one of the biggest ones I see is how do you customize? 5:24So I think what Morgan took us through is what I would call the standard. Right. 5:28Like let's say 80% of the time, yeah, we can have just this back and forth flow. 5:32But what happens when you have a problem or what happens when someone 5:36maybe is going to ask a question of a virtual assistant It's never seen before. 5:40We all like to think we're a little unique. 5:42We're a little different than everyone else. 5:44And that's, I think, where the challenges come. 5:46It's like, how do you figure out for the edge cases to get the same response, 5:50the same experience as if it was the common interaction? 5:54That word interaction is really ringing for me right now, 5:56because I notice that both of you are speaking of these as virtual assistants. 6:00Nobody's saying chatbot. What? What? 6:02Is that an intentional thing? 6:04Yes, absolutely. 6:05The reason we don't say chat bot anymore is because 6:07we're not just chatting with the virtual assistant. 6:09This technology is assisting us with various tasks. 6:13So it's not just like, hey, give me this information. 6:15It can, look up account information, maybe fill a prescription. 6:18The options are endless, honestly. 6:20And especially that taking actions associated with it. 6:23So I think most of us would think about an assistant helps you do things. 6:27They don't just talk to you. 6:28Okay, so look, I think we can all agree that we could all use an assistant, 6:32use some additional assistance. Right. 6:33And that's whether we're a big company or whether we're a smaller company. 6:38But what is the data foundation that you need in order to make AI I work for you. 6:42Can the small companies access it just as much as the larger ones? 6:46That's probably the thing I'm most excited about. 6:49With generative AI, we're able to leverage foundation models, 6:52which are built off of an incredibly large corpus of data. 6:56And so now when you're the smaller company and you have a smaller amount of data to start with, 7:01you take advantage of everything 7:02that was already trained into the foundation model. 7:05So we've lowered the bar. 7:07It doesn't take terabytes of data. 7:09In fact, it might be something as simple as 3 or 4 questions and answers. 7:14And that alone can get you started. 7:16So in thinking about that, if even the small companies can really tap 7:21on in and use a lot of the intelligence that's already been formulated, the LLMs, 7:26why is integration a relevant thing? 7:29Can somebody just kind of like, 7:31grab it all from one source and plug it on into their system? 7:34Not necessarily. 7:35So there are and integrations are my favorite topic to talk about. 7:38So there are a number of different sources. 7:42Maybe you have a database that has all of your customer information 7:45or you've got an ordering systems. 7:46I always like to use the flower shop example, 7:48so maybe we have our inventory listed 7:51in a certain place, customer information in a certain place, location information. 7:54If we're doing deliveries, 7:56you can't just kind of copy and paste that into your virtual assistant. 8:00You have to work with integrations which connect your virtual assistant 8:03to all of this data so that you can use it in your virtual assistant. 8:07okay. Okay. So 8:10you're reaching into different sources, 8:12all in order to still connect with your one main task. 8:15So even if we're just asking maybe one question, 8:17the response might be pulling from several sources. Yes. 8:20And I think it's partly about customizing. 8:23So when you interact with a virtual agent, you want it to know who you are. 8:27And to have all the right context. 8:28And then I think the other integration 8:30Morgan spoke to is when you're going to take that action, that workflow 8:34might be in a different system or a different application. 8:36And so it's really it's not just integrating the data, 8:39it's integrating the tools or the actions you're going to take as well, making it 8:43a seamless journey throughout. 8:45So when I look at my phone, when I look at my devices, 8:48I see that I've got all sorts of different like virtual assistants 8:51I've got, whether it's like my calendar app over here 8:54or whether I've got another scheduling app on over here. 8:56How in the world can all of those different spaces 8:59be woven together and integrate to just be one super duper virtual assistant? 9:04I mean, again, as your assistant, 9:05I've got my work calendar, I've got my personal calendar. 9:08I need to know when to take my dog to his doggy play dates, 9:10but I also need to know when I'm traveling for work. 9:12I want to see everything in one location, so he or she is reaching out 9:16to all of these different places and grabbing all of your data. 9:19So it's connected to maybe my work calendar. 9:21It's also connected to my personal calendar, it's connected to my email, 9:25and it can consolidate all of this in just one place. 9:27So if I say like, hey, what's going on today? 9:30Okay, let's give you a summary. 9:31I just pulled your email, pulled your calendar, checked on Mr. Hubble, the dog. 9:35Now, we're going to put all this together 9:37and say like, okay, here's a summary of your day. 9:39And I think the other thing we're also seeing is 9:41many of the applications 9:42are starting to figure out how do we proactively build those integrations in. 9:46I did a prescription online refill the other day, did it 9:49through virtual assistant. It said it's done. 9:51It then sent a text to me with the time to pick it up, which created an entry 9:55on my calendar and a reminder to say, like, you got to still pick it up. 9:59And so I think to your point, it's either from the assistant outwards 10:04trying to engage and connect and integrate, but also as we build 10:08these applications, we need to be thinking about those touchpoints 10:11and how we proactive send information to be included. 10:15I hear you, Jessica. 10:17So but Morgan, how do you go about actively building these integrations? 10:21Yeah. So let me give you an example for what I do specifically. 10:24I will first build sort of a dialog in a tool that we have called watsonx Assistant. 10:29So that's just the base like, hello, how are you? 10:31How can I help you? 10:33and then I will add something called extensions, which are the integrations. 10:36So for each data source I might have a different extension. 10:39For instance, to reach out to a calendar, I've got a calendar extension. 10:43if I have a data repository with all my documents, that's another extension. 10:47If I want to reach out to a large language model, another extension, 10:51and then in the dialog itself in assistant, that's where we kind of 10:54bring everything together and navigate, you know, how to guide the customer. 10:58But when we are thinking about all of the different sources that are out there, 11:02this is where I can start to get a little bit intimidated 11:05from just keeping it real here. 11:06How can you make sure that you're actually finding the right AI model, and how do you start? 11:11First and foremost, it's about finding a trusted model. 11:14So we know that there's an incredible amount out in the open source world. 11:19There's a lot of proprietary models as well. 11:21So first and foremost you want to find one that you trust. 11:24and that's looking at what information is shared about the model. 11:27What data was it trained on. 11:29The same way that when you go to buy food at the grocery store, 11:32you check the ingredient list, you look at the calorie count. 11:35It's the same kind of thing you're assessing as you look at these models. 11:38And then I think the second piece is to understand what type of actions 11:42are you going to be taking. 11:44So Morgan referenced earlier we talked about summarizing something. 11:47Or maybe you're classifying these different models 11:50typically are strongest at a certain set of activities or actions you might take. 11:56And so it's about finding the right fit. 11:58And then maybe last but definitely not least, 12:00how big is the model and what's it going to cost you to use it. 12:04Because you got to balance all those factors. 12:06I wish I had unlimited funds, but I don't. 12:09And so really trying to find the best mix across those dimensions. 12:13Is it inaccurate to assume, though, that like the bigger the model, the better 12:17that it's going to be for any business, regardless of what the industry is? 12:22Definitely. Yeah. 12:23Like Jessica was saying that different models are good at certain things. 12:26So there's actually one that is really good at code generation. 12:29I'm not going to use that for writing emails. 12:31Otherwise my emails are going to be very weird. 12:35and so there is the concept of parameters and I won't get too deep into it, 12:38but how many parameters go into a large language model? 12:41So I think what you were kind of saying is just because something has more 12:45a larger number of parameters, it doesn't mean necessarily 12:47that it's going to be better for every task out there. 12:50Gotcha. 12:51Okay. Still, it really does matter. It does. 12:54And I think when you think about the size of the model, 12:58sometimes I would say if something is going to cost 13:00you twice as much and it's maybe only better in one case out of ten. 13:05Is it the right balance. 13:07Right. Yeah. 13:09So there's really some real human discernment that needs to happen here. 13:12There's a. Lot of work to be done. 13:13To make sure you find the right fit. Yeah. 13:15So that's of testing 13:16lots of testing. 13:17So let's talk about how this can actually go into practice as well. 13:20Like I'm thinking specifically about so many of the professional tasks 13:23that we do today that we just kind of we automatically think about it. 13:27Right, because it's a part of our routine. 13:28But some of those things are going to look really outdated when our grandkids 13:33think about it. Right. They're going to laugh about it. Right. 13:35So like, what is today's fax machine, for example? 13:38And and what's today's email? 13:40I think we're already seeing it even with the generation of our kids. 13:44And I think it's only going to amplify when we get to our grandkids. 13:47Really simple example. 13:48To give you a sense, most kids today work only in online applications. 13:54So my children do not understand the save button 13:58because they've only ever worked in like Google Docs or some kind of online form. 14:01So like it just isn't even a concept to them. 14:05And I think what we're really going to see is this idea 14:09that you have to talk to people to get something done. 14:12It's going to sound like this really hokey thing, like, what do you mean? 14:15You had to line up somewhere and you had to talk to human to accomplish something 14:21They're going to be doing things from a phone. 14:23That mobile device is going to just become central to everything. 14:26And they'll be like, oh, you just press a button 14:28or you just speak to it and everything happens behind the scenes. 14:32I think that concept of manual to accomplish 14:36anything is going to be a little bit of a thing of the. Past, 14:38and I don't think the kids know what a floppy disk is when you refer to the save button, 14:44but another thing is, you know, 14:46if you're typing in a text message, you you've got autocomplete. 14:49That's AI, like that's. 14:51What I mean. But it's funny that you mention that because I feel as though even though 14:54sometimes there can be a fear surrounding those two letters, A.I. 14:58we are all using it in several different ways. G.P.S. like texting. Yeah. 15:04Well, and I think you comment on fear. 15:06I also think generationally it's interesting to watch because I do 15:11think for our kids and our grandkids, those generation 15:15AI is going to be so pervasive that they may not have the same degree of fear 15:20of adopting it, 15:20that maybe some of us do today because we know what it used to be like. 15:25And so there's that. 15:25There is that culture divide that you have to cross. 15:28But as kids come up, as they're learning in school, 15:32I think every career, no matter what you're in, 15:36is going to require some level of knowledge about AI. 15:39That's going to mean 15:39they all come up with a set of awareness and education that none of us have had. 15:44You mentioned career. 15:46So I'm thinking now, how will this growth, 15:49how will this development impact our work? 15:52Oh, it's going to make everything easier for us. 15:54it's that's why we call it an assistant. 15:56It's not going to take an assistant cannot do what I do. Let's be honest. 16:03But it's going to 16:04help me with the things that are either just super repetitive 16:07or maybe the things I'm not good at, like writing emails, things like that. 16:11But it's definitely not going to take over. What I do. 16:13I kind of hope that that phrase, grunt work is a thing of the past. 16:18It becomes a word 16:18that is just not used anymore, because those are the things that I can handle 16:23and we're all going to be doing things that are creative, thought provoking, strategic, and let's go change the world. 16:30Okay, well, you just brought up a word that I'm sure really made people's 16:33ears perk up grunt work. 16:35It's the thing. Like we all run away from that. 16:37So how do you even start to diagnose what some of that grunt work is? 16:43That I might be able to replace? 16:46Yeah. So, we have a concept called design thinking here at IBM. 16:49And something we do as part of that is called empathy mapping. 16:52We put ourselves in the shoes of the user. 16:55We do like interviews with them. 16:57So we're going to see like what is their day to day? 16:59What are the tasks that they're spending the most time on, and can we automate 17:02those like you were talking about your kids earlier, doing the, 17:05the research and all that. 17:07I remember back in my day when we had dial up manually 17:11having the first way for the internet to load 17:14and then having to go and read through all of these different documents. 17:18And I mean, let's think of a, customer service agent. 17:21You know, they're like, how do they update a user's account information 17:25or something like that? They're going to have to go 17:26and read through the manuals, but that's grunt work. 17:29We don't want to do that. 17:30We can use. A.I., hey, go check in within a few seconds, get an answer. 17:33And we know then, though, that people are evolving over time. 17:37Like what you talk about back in my day, you know, 17:40I would like to say I think today is still your day. 17:42I'm not ready to give our days up, you know? 17:45but I'm thinking, how are these 17:47roles also going to evolve over time? 17:50Right. Because I know since we're evolving, our roles have to as well. 17:53What do you think that's going to look like? 17:54So I think we're going to see a lot more time 17:59being able to be spent on engaging with each other. 18:02If we're not having to spend this time, you know, searching on things 18:06or entering things into spreadsheet. 18:08Now, we actually can spend the time face to face and interacting and engaging. 18:12I think we're going to see a big focus on that. 18:14I also think we're going to be having more opportunity to create. 18:20We're going to have things that will help us bring to life what we envision, right? 18:24But we have to spend the time on the big, the big ideas, 18:29the big thoughts, the big visions, and I do. 18:31I think we're going to see a lot of advancements 18:33and a lot of ideas about how to make all of our lives better and more fulfilling. 18:38Okay, now this has been such a rich conversation. 18:41I wish that I could somehow grant us more time, with this, but, 18:46I'm taking a few things away from this, so here are a few takeaways I've got. 18:50Time is the most valuable resource, so using AI to free up your time is absolutely key. 18:56"The bigger the model, the better." It's like, that's not a true statement at all. 19:00So you got to pick the best model for your task. 19:02And then looking to the future, every career is going to require 19:06understanding of AI and honestly it will make them better and easier. 19:10Does that sound about right? 19:11Sounds pretty right. 19:11Okay, cool. I think I passed the test today. 19:14well, thank you both so much for being here. 19:16Jessica, Morgan, this has been a complete blast. 19:19That's it for this episode. 19:21So thank you so much for listening. Thank you for watching. 19:24But hey, look, there's a ton more where this came from. 19:27We're going to be bringing you AI insights all throughout the season. 19:30So stay tuned to this feed and we'll see you here again soon.