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Clara's AI Hiring Claims Questioned

Key Points

  • The speaker downplays OpenAI’s new search feature, saying it’s a modest improvement rather than a breakthrough innovation.
  • Clara is aggressively promoting AI‑driven automation and the elimination of up to 2,000 jobs to impress investors and defend margins as it prepares for an IPO.
  • Despite publicly “pausing hiring,” Clara’s job listings still show dozens of senior engineering openings, suggesting a gap between its messaging and reality.
  • The company’s push to automate processes like Salesforce is framed as a way to recover its 2021 valuation peak of $45 billion, now reduced to about $14 billion amid broader market compression.
  • The speaker also highlights Ilia Suer’s presentation at the NORS conference in Vancouver as another noteworthy, yet under‑reported, AI development.

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# Clara's AI Hiring Claims Questioned **Source:** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuZyIJ-VzRM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuZyIJ-VzRM) **Duration:** 00:08:39 ## Summary - The speaker downplays OpenAI’s new search feature, saying it’s a modest improvement rather than a breakthrough innovation. - Clara is aggressively promoting AI‑driven automation and the elimination of up to 2,000 jobs to impress investors and defend margins as it prepares for an IPO. - Despite publicly “pausing hiring,” Clara’s job listings still show dozens of senior engineering openings, suggesting a gap between its messaging and reality. - The company’s push to automate processes like Salesforce is framed as a way to recover its 2021 valuation peak of $45 billion, now reduced to about $14 billion amid broader market compression. - The speaker also highlights Ilia Suer’s presentation at the NORS conference in Vancouver as another noteworthy, yet under‑reported, AI development. ## Sections - [00:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuZyIJ-VzRM&t=0s) **Clara's AI Hiring & IPO Pressure** - The speaker downplays OpenAI's new search feature and argues that Clara's controversial hiring cuts and ambitious claims of automating thousands of jobs—driven by valuation compression and IPO pressure—constitute a far more significant AI development. ## Full Transcript
0:00two pieces of AI news that I think 0:01matter and one that doesn't the one that 0:03doesn't first I don't think open AI 0:05search is going to go down as a massive 0:07uh Innovation they already search 0:09they're searching in advanced voice mode 0:11that's really the end of it I think it's 0:12helpful but it's not that big a piece of 0:15news but two things I think that are big 0:18that aren't getting the headlines they 0:19should one is the way Clara is handling 0:24their hiring practices and automating AI 0:28conversation I think a poor example of 0:31how to handle a delicate situation and I 0:34think it's driven by Claro's business 0:35performance and their pressure to IPO 0:37and we're going to talk about it briefly 0:38and then I'll get to Ilia suer and his 0:41speech at the nors conference in 0:43Vancouver after that so first Clara 0:46fundamentally Clara is trying to recover 0:50their valuation from 2021 when they were 0:52at $45 billion that is what the lens you 0:55should use for everything they do 0:58they're currently valued at 14 billion 1:00they obviously have a long way to go 1:02value compression is just a reality for 1:04most companies that had a valuation in 1:072021 part of why Clara is being so 1:10aggressive then with their claims about 1:12automating away Salesforce and now uh 1:15today automating away uh 2,000 jobs I 1:19think that's fine like they're they're 1:22going to make those claims because they 1:24want to impress investors with their 1:27efficiency in a low margin by now pay 1:29later business with a a lot of bad debt 1:30it makes a ton of sense for them 1:32business-wise to argue that they're 1:34extremely efficient because it defends 1:35their margin and it helps them project 1:38defensive margin when they're looking to 1:40IPO that doesn't mean that it's actually 1:44as substantive as they claim that 1:46remains to be seen it is possible that 1:50Clara will end up aing automating away a 1:52significant part of their workflow they 1:54have unlike many SAS providers very 1:57defined business logic they have very 2:00clear product requirements it's actually 2:02one of the lower ambiguity SAS 2:04businesses out there you buy now you pay 2:06later like there's a lot of detail in 2:08bad debt and how you manage bad debt 2:09I've looked at that briefly in another 2:11Walk of Life but overall from a business 2:13perspective it's one of the clearer 2:15playbooks to 2:16run so I could see if they really wanted 2:19to commit to it that it might be one of 2:21the earlier places where you start to 2:22see some labor replacement with AI Etc 2:26but what I don't 2:28appreciate is CLA claiming they are 2:31already doing this when their actual 2:34jobs page doesn't reflect that reality 2:37they are saying they've paused hiring 2:38for example but you can find 54 open 2:42positions on Clara's website right now 2:44and on LinkedIn and they're not they're 2:48not meaningless positions they're hiring 2:49senior software 2:51Engineers so if you're going to claim 2:54that you are pausing 2:55hiring and then publicly not live up to 2:58that promise I think it's right for 3:01people to ask questions about why you're 3:03making such aggressive 3:05statements when the reality doesn't live 3:07up to what you're claiming so I think 3:10that the reason I call this out is 3:12strategic is that in 2025 we are going 3:14to see a lot more statements from 3:16companies that feel like clar's 3:17statement because it's going to be very 3:20fashionable for companies to claim huge 3:22gains from AI efficiencies we need to 3:25ask where the reality is we need to ask 3:27where people are actually delivering 3:29gains with AI in production versus where 3:31they are making a PR statement and right 3:34now it's really difficult to see what 3:36clar is actually delivering and we're 3:38just going to have to wait and see and I 3:40think that the lesson I take away from 3:42this is to be a little bit skeptical 3:44about AI automation claims and jobs 3:46heading into 3:472025 it's like prove it right moving on 3:51to number two moving on to Ilia and his 3:54speech at norp in 3:56Vancouver so Ilia is the grandfather of 3:58AI not the only one there's a lot of 4:00people who can make that claim and IL is 4:02a young guy so he's he much less gray 4:05than me but he has been instrumental in 4:08building AI he was a co-founder at open 4:10AI he has been uh critical to the 4:13development of large language models 4:15since 2014 so they invited him back a 4:17decade later at NPS to reflect on sort 4:19of how things have come this far what's 4:21up ahead very classic thing right and 4:23now he's a Founder at safe super 4:25intelligence so he is intimately 4:27involved in building a motion to Super 4:29intelligence which is usually defined as 4:32uh an intelligence that is great enough 4:34to run an entire organization's worth of 4:36value through AI without any people 4:39whatsoever so imagine like your startup 4:41of 200 is just an 4:43AI so he comes and mostly what people 4:48report on is his quote that the internet 4:51is like oil it's a non-renewable 4:53resource we've already used it for 4:55pre-training and it's 4:57gone and so people talk about that right 5:00and that's his it's framed as his 5:01comment on the great uh pre-training 5:04controversy where we are wondering if 5:06we're hitting a pre- training wall 5:08Google fires back today and says we're 5:11not hitting a pre-training wall that's 5:13only if you don't have 5:15imagination and we we will have to see 5:18how that all plays out I want to call 5:21out something that I think people 5:23overlooked Ilia has had opinions in the 5:27past about what's just ahead they're not 5:29is correct especially in terms of 5:32sequencing it's very difficult to get 5:33the future right sequentially it's 5:35easier to get it right conceptually if 5:36you deeply know your field he deeply 5:38knows the field and so if you look at 5:41past statements about how large language 5:42models will progress he's often 5:44conceptually 5:46correct 5:47but he has been so hesitant about what's 5:51ahead and that came out at NPS it's like 5:54this moment past with Chad GPT and 5:57reaching gp4 level now 01 and the sense 6:01that nobody really talked about that 6:03that I got from Ila's 6:05talk is that he's not sure what's ahead 6:08for the first time in a long time and I 6:10think that's worth talking about that's 6:12a 6:13story and he he hazarded some guesses 6:17about how we get to Super intelligence 6:18but for the founder of safe super 6:20intelligence to really publicly not be 6:23sure about the next step forward is a 6:25remarkable 6:27thing from the money graph on his 6:31presentation I think his bet is on 6:34recursive AI self-improvement but that's 6:37very 6:38unproven and the money graph by the way 6:40is this like line chart where he 6:43basically calls out that 6:46intelligence and brain size in mammals 6:49are somewhat correlated except for 6:52hominids us and we have found a way to 6:56hack our wetwear hack our brains so that 6:59we are able to have intelligence that 7:01scales that isn't linearly linked to 7:03brain 7:04size great love that it's a very astute 7:08observation but it's an analogy it's not 7:10exactly clear how that would map to 7:13artificial intelligence and Ilia made it 7:16pretty clear that he's not sure yet 7:17either now it is possible he is 7:20concealing Alpha right he has some 7:22special Insight on this that is the 7:23founder of safe super intelligence he's 7:25going to keep to himself until he can 7:27prove it that's a possibility 7:31but my sense is he's actually trying to 7:35figure out the way forward with the rest 7:37of 7:37us and that's going to make for a very 7:39interesting 2025 because there's a lot 7:41of candidates there's people who are 7:42saying extra test time extra inference 7:45time when you type in your chat is going 7:46to help us really scale intelligence 7:48there's people saying synthetic data is 7:50the way forward and we don't need an 7:51internet's worth of data for pre-t 7:52trading because the llms can generate 7:54their data now there's people who are 7:56saying that it's about logic which is 7:59something that ilot tipped his cap to in 8:00the presentation saying that if we can 8:03teach machines to be logical we have a 8:06path 8:07forward this feels like a hinge moment 8:10it feels like the beginning of 2025 is 8:12one of those inflection points where 8:14there's multiple paths into the future 8:16and some of the leading model makers and 8:18some of the leading thinkers in the 8:20space are still trying to figure out 8:22what is a path toward the next step 8:23change in intelligence and what does it 8:25look 8:26like we shall see I'm excited to find 8:30out but those are things that I think 8:31are more strategic versus the open AI 8:33search stuff which made headlines I hope 8:35you enjoyed this cheers