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Generative AI Transforms US Open Experience

Key Points

  • The episode explores how “openness” in AI is reshaping industries, with a focus on generative AI’s role at the US Open tennis tournament.
  • Brian Ryerson, Senior Director of Digital Strategy for the USTA, explains the organization’s mission to promote tennis as a health‑and‑wellness activity and highlights the US Open as its flagship global showcase.
  • IBM’s three‑decade partnership with the USTA now leverages the IBM Granite Family large language model, built on the watsonx platform, to automatically generate match insights, spoken commentary, and post‑match summaries for the tournament’s app and website.
  • These AI‑driven content tools enable the USTA’s editorial team to cover significantly more matches, delivering richer, real‑time experiences to the millions of fans worldwide.
  • The season’s broader goal is to reach over a million fans for the upcoming US Open, illustrating how open, generative AI can expand audience engagement at scale.

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# Generative AI Transforms US Open Experience **Source:** [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI) **Duration:** 00:32:39 ## Summary - The episode explores how “openness” in AI is reshaping industries, with a focus on generative AI’s role at the US Open tennis tournament. - Brian Ryerson, Senior Director of Digital Strategy for the USTA, explains the organization’s mission to promote tennis as a health‑and‑wellness activity and highlights the US Open as its flagship global showcase. - IBM’s three‑decade partnership with the USTA now leverages the IBM Granite Family large language model, built on the watsonx platform, to automatically generate match insights, spoken commentary, and post‑match summaries for the tournament’s app and website. - These AI‑driven content tools enable the USTA’s editorial team to cover significantly more matches, delivering richer, real‑time experiences to the millions of fans worldwide. - The season’s broader goal is to reach over a million fans for the upcoming US Open, illustrating how open, generative AI can expand audience engagement at scale. ## Sections - [00:00:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=0s) **Generative AI Enhances US Open** - Malcolm Gladwell introduces US Tennis Association’s Brian Ryerson to discuss how IBM’s open, generative‑AI solutions deliver scalable match insights, spoken commentary, and post‑match summaries for millions of US Open fans. - [00:03:06](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=186s) **Digital Director’s Journey at US Open** - Brian recounts his path from a marketing and technology graduate and lacrosse player to becoming the US Open’s digital director, overseeing consumer engagement for a growing food‑and‑wine tennis festival. - [00:06:10](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=370s) **Crafting Real‑Time Sports Narratives** - The speakers discuss how storytelling drives fan engagement at the US Open, balancing planned narratives with unpredictable match outcomes to appeal to diverse audiences. - [00:09:17](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=557s) **IBM‑USTA Digital Partnership Highlights** - The speaker describes a 30‑year IBM consulting partnership that equips the USTA with digital tools and AI‑driven video highlights, turning lengthy tennis matches into three‑minute clips delivered to fans almost instantly. - [00:12:20](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=740s) **US Open App: Fan Guide Overview** - Brian explains that the US Open app serves as an on‑site companion for the millions of attendees, offering schedules, live scores, match previews, post‑match summaries, and integrated SlamTracker features to enhance the tournament experience. - [00:15:24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=924s) **AI-Powered Tennis Shot Visualization** - Brian explains how AI can instantly render every ball’s trajectory with layered statistics, turning standard broadcasts into an interactive, data‑rich experience for fans and analysts alike. - [00:18:39](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=1119s) **AI-Powered Tennis Match Reporting** - The speakers explain how Watsonx generative AI transforms tennis’s rich structured and unstructured data into full‑scale, automated match stories, enabling comprehensive coverage and new fan outreach worldwide. - [00:21:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=1305s) **Ensuring Data Accuracy & Scaling Real‑Time Summaries** - The speakers discuss validating data sources using watsonx tools and continuous model retraining, then leveraging IBM Granite models to handle real‑time summary generation across 22 simultaneous courts. - [00:24:49](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=1489s) **Ensuring AI Data Quality & Risk Management** - Brian outlines how trusted scoring data, extensive testing with third‑party sources, and open‑model transparency help address data‑quality challenges and prevent harmful or inaccurate AI outputs. - [00:27:58](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=1678s) **AI Personalization in Tennis Media** - Brian explains how AI enables fast, multilingual, personalized tennis storytelling for fans, dispels the myth that AI replaces creativity, and predicts its transformative impact on the sport’s content ecosystem. - [00:31:01](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwim1CYl0fI&t=1861s) **AI-Driven Tennis Storytelling** - The segment highlights how IBM’s partnership with the US Open uses AI to streamline content creation, solve the “blank page” problem, and personalize fan experiences in tennis. ## Full Transcript
0:13Malcolm: Hello, hello. 0:14Welcome to Smart Talks with IBM, a podcast from Pushkin 0:17Industries, iHeartRadio, and IBM. 0:20I'm Malcolm Gladwell. 0:22This season, we're diving back into the world of artificial intelligence, 0:25but with a focus on the powerful concept of open, its possibilities, 0:30implications, and misconceptions. 0:33We'll look at openness from a variety of angles and explore how the concept 0:37is already reshaping industries, ways of doing business, and our 0:41very notion of what's possible. 0:44I'm particularly excited for today's guest, Brian Ryerson. 0:48He is senior Director of Digital Strategy at the US Tennis Association, helping 0:53to oversee one of the most iconic events in the world of sports, the US Open. 0:58Brian sat down with Pushkin's own Jacob Goldstein, host of the 1:02podcast, What's Your Problem? 1:04A veteran business journalist, Jacob has reported for the Wall Street Journal, 1:08the Miami Herald, and was a longtime host of the NPR program, Planet Money. 1:13IBM has been the official technology partner of the US Tennis 1:18Association for more than 30 years. 1:21And the more recent evolution into generative AI has enhanced the world-class 1:26digital experiences that help more than 15 million fans from all over the world 1:31enjoy the US Open Tennis Championships. 1:35In this episode, we will explore how generative AI is being used to generate 1:39match insights, spoken commentary for match highlights, and post match 1:44summaries at scale for fans to enjoy through the US Open app and website. 1:49We'll explore how these AI solutions enable the editorial team to cover more of 1:55the tournament than ever before, bringing fans even closer to the game they love. 2:00And we'll learn more about one of the engines behind this AI-powered 2:03content creation: a large language model from the IBM Granite Family, 2:09which is trained and maintained using the watsonx AI and data platform. 2:15Okay, let's dive in. 2:18Jacob: Brian, welcome to the show. 2:19Brian: Thanks for having me. 2:20I'm excited to be here. 2:21Jacob: Can you say your name and your job? 2:23Brian: Yeah. 2:23I'm Brian Ryerson, I'm Senior Director of Digital Strategy at the USTA. 2:28Jacob: Dumb question, what's the USTA? 2:30Brian: The US Tennis Association. 2:32Jacob: And tell me about the USTA, what is it? 2:35Brian: Yeah, so the USTA is the governing body of tennis in the US. 2:39Our mission is to grow the sport of tennis across the US at all levels. 2:44Really, I would say we're more of like a health and wellness company where tennis 2:47is the means to health and wellness. 2:49And then the US Open is kind of our tent pole event that happens 2:53every year in Flushing Meadows, and is really our chance to showcase 2:56the sport of tennis at its highest level to fans all around the world. 2:59Jacob: Yeah, I mean the US Open, I assume most people know this, but it's a 3:02Grand Slam, it's one of the, what, four biggest tennis tournaments in the world? 3:06Brian: Correct? 3:07Yes. 3:07Yeah, every year, especially the past couple years, we've seen immense 3:11growth, and we are very hopeful this year, and our big goal is to have 3:15over a million fans on site during the three-week window this year. 3:18So it's an amazing event. 3:19I always say it's a food and wine festival where tennis is the main attraction, and 3:23it's a really fun, unique atmosphere. 3:26Jacob: How did you get into the tennis business? 3:28Brian: It's a great question. 3:30It's not where I thought I'd end up for, especially being there for 14 years. 3:33So I was a marketing and technology major in school, and I also played college 3:39lacrosse, and sports was always a big part of my life, and always wanted to be 3:42in the sports and entertainment world. 3:44I'm here from the New York area, this is where I grew up. 3:46So I moved back home, and had a few friends who worked there. 3:49And I started out more on the numbers side of things, and really digital 3:53analytics, was really the start of when Facebook and Twitter was just starting, 3:57and digital marketing and all of that. 3:59And I went to my first US Open not really knowing what to expect. 4:04And again, I think the atmosphere kind of captivated me and hooked me 4:07in, and I've been there now 14 years. 4:09Jacob: And so your title is digital director. 4:13What does that mean? 4:14What's your job? 4:15Brian: Yeah, so it's an interesting one, because it's tough to explain to 4:18folks who are not in the weeds on all things US Open or even in the sports 4:22world, but really I oversee all of our consumer facing digital property. 4:26So that's the usopen.org, our website built by IBM, as well as our mobile app. 4:31I oversee our content strategy, our sponsorship integrations. 4:35Really anything consumer facing that happens on the web is under my purview. 4:40Even some of our new platform extensions and gaming and things like that, 4:44anything that you can physically interact with is kind of under my purview. 4:49Jacob: And so you've been there now for 14-ish years, which in 4:54the digital world is a long time. 4:56How has that sort of digital experience of sports changed over that time? 5:02Brian: Yeah, it's obviously grown. 5:03Digital now is, what we say and what my team says is, it's the number 5:07one way to engage with fans that can't make it to the event, as well 5:11as those fans who are at the event, and how do you enrich their stay. 5:13So it's really kind of, you're tackling multiple fan personas. 5:16It's the international fan who's staying up late to watch in other countries, 5:21to the fan here who's maybe watching on broadcast and we go in to accompany and 5:25enrich that broadcast with new stats and insights, to the onsite fan who 5:28bought a ticket and maybe doesn't know what match is happening on what court. 5:31We do have 20 plus courts happening at a time with all different matches, so 5:35really try to help all fans navigate the US Open the best way possible. 5:40Jacob: And so what are some of the sort of problems you're trying to solve? 5:44What are some of the hard things about your job? 5:46Brian: Obviously technology changes at a rapid pace, right? 5:50So I think part of it is, how do we stay on the forefront of that, and how 5:54do we do that in the best way and make the best fan experience possible, and 5:57the best user experiences possible? 6:00That's always kind of driving factor number one. 6:02Then number two, it's understanding and listening to our fans and 6:06what kind of content they want. 6:08You'll hear me talk a lot about storytelling. 6:10I feel like there's a lot of storytelling that happens around the US Open that 6:13really, really want to bring to fans. 6:15And that can be as simple as storytelling of what's happening today and what you 6:20should be watching to, maybe it's your favorite players and what's going on 6:24behind the scenes with them to, even introducing, I want to say the casual 6:28fans to who they should be watching, why they should follow certain players, and 6:32more bringing that player's story to life. 6:35Jacob: Yeah, I mean I feel like almost the whole point of sports is to create 6:39stories for us to follow, right? 6:41They're engineered to be stories. 6:44Brian: Exactly. 6:44Jacob: This thing is happening in front of you, and there are two antagonist, 6:48and the stakes are high, and you don't know how it's going to end. 6:51It's built to be a story. 6:53Brian: And that's the main challenge of the job is you can plan, plan, plan, but 6:57once you get two players on court and you don't know what that outcome's going to 7:01be, it's now sitting, and waiting, and watching, and you become a fan yourself, 7:04and then it's, how do you really captivate that story, and how do you narrate it, 7:09and how do you translate that to fans? 7:11Jacob: And it's like you kind of have to do it in real time, right? 7:14The whole point of sports is you don't know what's going to happen. 7:16Brian: Exactly, and that's the excitement. 7:18And it's also, there's so many different types of fans. 7:20There's the fans who want a lot of enriched data, and their tennis nerds, 7:24for lack of better of saying it, and that they really want to dive deep into 7:28the intricacies of the game, versus the casual fan who maybe just wants more 7:31of this high level storyline of what does this mean, why is it important? 7:35So it's really trying to figure out how to deliver that at scale, and really help 7:40fans get what they're looking for, and the type of content they're looking for. 7:43Jacob: So are there specific examples of how fan feedback has led to specific 7:49features, digital features you build? 7:51Are there particularly popular features you've come up with? 7:55What are some specifics? 7:56Brian: Yeah, some low-hanging fruit type things that came from fan feedback is 7:59simple things sometimes, like managing time zones of when matches start. 8:03Jacob: A persistent problem for those of us who work across time zones, right? 8:07Brian: Exactly. 8:08And we do have, like I mentioned, 20+ courts happening at a time, so 8:12it's a lot to follow, and how do you translate that to a fan, whether 8:15it's to their native language or to their time zone or things like that. 8:19So that's one thing that came through fan feedback. 8:21And another one, a three to five hour match, especially when you're having 20+ 8:25of them happening at a time is, there's too much for one person to follow. 8:30So how do you start from an editorial perspective really helping with that 8:34storytelling and guiding a fan to like, all right, whether there's an upset about 8:38to happen, or here's your matches to watch, or even some of the predictions 8:43we're starting to put in is, we really want to guide the fan before a match, 8:46here's where you should tune in, to even after a match of here's what's 8:49happened, here's what's important. 8:51And we're really excited with some of the features we've built in the last few 8:54years that, I would say really helps us do that at more scale than what we were 8:58able to do with just writers following a match and covering every single match. 9:02Jacob: So I want to talk a little bit about the partnership 9:05between IBM and the USTA. 9:09Just tell me about the work you do together. 9:12Brian: So IBM is our official digital and technology partner, and 9:15innovation partner of the US Open. 9:17They predate me, it's a 30-year partnership, and 9:20it truly is a partnership. 9:21So I view the IBM consulting team as an extension of my USTA team. 9:26So we work with them year round, they design, develop, and 9:30deliver the digital properties. 9:32They help us provide the tools to create content, to do things at scale. 9:36They help us from stats and information, and really help us 9:38push from an innovation standpoint to make sure that we are staying 9:41on that cutting edge of technology. 9:43So I would truly say it is much more than a sponsorship, where 9:47it's truly a partnership to deliver that fan experience. 9:50Jacob: And so what are some of the specific things that 9:53you have done with IBM? 9:55Brian: Yeah, so I mean there's countless ones to talk through. 9:58Obviously 30 years ago they helped us build our first website, and 10:03it's kind of grown from there. 10:04Over the past few years, I would say, I think it was 2018 10:08is we started AI highlights. 10:09So that was really when we were able to have all 20 matches going at a 10:14single time, we were able to quickly deliver succinct highlights to fans 10:18to our digital platform, so they could see highlights for every single court. 10:22Jacob: Is that video highlights? 10:24Is that text summaries? 10:25What does that mean? 10:26Brian: At the time it was video highlights. 10:29So it was really taking that three to five hour match, let's say, and cut it 10:32down to a three-minute highlight that could show up within moments after a match 10:36ending to our website and our mobile app. 10:38So fans could see that all around the world and really kind of get that three 10:42minute overview, what happened in a match. 10:44Jacob: And was that AI enabled? 10:46Was AI a piece of how to do that? 10:48Brian: It was, it was probably our first foray into AI back then. 10:53Jacob: Well 2018 is relatively early. 10:55Brian: Yeah, exactly. 10:56Jacob: Early for tennis. 10:57Brian: Exactly, yeah. 10:59It really, I don't want to say opened up our ability to one, again, 11:03story tell, but attract new fans too is, video has actually been our 11:06number one growth area since 2018- 11:08Jacob: Makes sense. 11:09... Brian: and I think a lot of that has to do with the scale 11:11of how we deliver that content. 11:12Jacob: Using AI and being able to deliver the sort of video 11:16highlight reels at scale. 11:18Brian: Yeah, and do it quickly, right? 11:20We've always had highlights, but it was a manual process where you 11:23had a video editor cutting through a three-hour match, selecting the 11:27right scene, stitching together, it would've to get voiced over, et cetera. 11:31We really have used AI to make it, I want to say, much more efficient 11:34and speed up that process, and deliver it more quickly to our fans. 11:38Jacob: I mean, it would be a bummer to get scooped by whatever, NBC News 11:42or ESPN or whatever, I'm sure they're all your partners and you love them. 11:45Brian: Yeah, exactly. 11:46Jacob: Obviously you want to have the video first, right? 11:48It's your match. 11:49Brian: Yeah, and I think it's also important to us as being the USTA 11:53is ensuring that it's not just the main marquee player, it's that every 11:58player in all those storylines, and that whether it's the main singles 12:03draw to or mixed doubles, et cetera, they all need highlights, and they 12:06all have their own stories to tell, and how do we do that at scale? 12:09It was something that before we had that product, it was not 12:12something we were able to do. 12:13Jacob: Great. 12:14So let's talk in some more detail about what you're working on. 12:19Let's start with the app. 12:20Tell me about the US Open app and the companion website. 12:23Brian: Yeah, so I'll start with the app, and I feel like they serve similar 12:28needs, but they're a little different in their own respective manners. 12:31The app, everybody has a phone in their hands at this point. 12:34The app is kind of their guide to, when I say a million fans on site, 12:38we view the app as, we want that to be their onsite guide and companion. 12:42Jacob: A million, let's just pause on a million fans on site, right? 12:46Because like a big, professional, whatever, an NFL game or something, 12:50that's like 100,000, this is 10X that. 12:53Brian: Yeah, in a three-week window, in a very succinct, 12:56tight, action-packed window. 12:59There's a lot of action coming through. 13:00Jacob: A lot of logistics. 13:01Okay, so keep going. 13:03Brian: Yes. 13:03So the app, whether it's finding the schedules, the live scores, 13:07what's happening on court, that's really the focus point of the app. 13:10And what we're really focused on this year is, how do we build in some of 13:14those match summaries into the app, into our SlamTracker experience? 13:17So again, before a match, that kind of match preview of here's maybe... 13:21If you have a ticket, here's what to expect, here's our likelihood to win, 13:25who we are predicting, so you can kind of get some information heading in. 13:29And then after the match it's more of, what just happened, what it means 13:34for the rest of the draw, who they're playing next, is this the first time 13:38this has happened, et cetera, and really enriching that experience as well. 13:41So the app is one, your guide to what you should be watching, but 13:45also then giving you that insights and context of what's happening on 13:48that court as you're watching it. 13:49Jacob: It's like the commentator in your pocket. 13:51Brian: Exactly. 13:52Jacob: So you used a phrase in there, as if I already knew it, 13:56and I love the phrase, but I want you to talk more about it. 13:58That phrase is SlamTracker. 14:01Brian: Yes. 14:02So SlamTracker is our longstanding live scores, I want to say match center. 14:08It is where every single data point for every single match lives, and it really 14:13helps showcase what's happening to match. 14:15I say it's our broadcast companion. 14:17So if you're watching live, it's our in-stadium companion. 14:19It's also the best thing to have if you aren't able to watch. 14:23Jacob: And so like I'm on the app and there's a thing called SlamTracker? 14:26Brian: Yes. 14:26Jacob: And I tap SlamTracker, what do I see on my phone when I tap SlamTracker 14:30midday when the tournament's happening? 14:32Brian: So before a match, that's where you get a lot of pre-match content, that's 14:35where those live, kind of our predictions, our likelihood to win lives within that. 14:39So likelihood to win essentially pulls in a bunch of data points, so pass matches 14:44how many times the players have played against each other, even some punditry 14:48and other written articles that maybe our editorial team put out, and really 14:52kind of puts a prediction out there. 14:54Jacob: And so it's just a percentage chance? 14:56Brian: Yes, exactly. 14:57But it uses millions of data points that come up with that 15:00Jacob: Yes. 15:00... Brian: so it really helps you understand what you're getting into for that match. 15:05During a live match, it is every single point, so point-by-point scoring, as well 15:10as in-depth analysis and point commentary. 15:12Or also this year I have a live visualization that accompanies that, that 15:16will really help bring the match together. 15:18And what I mean by that is it uses our ball-tracking technology to really 15:22showcase the match in near real time. 15:24So within seconds delay of where the ball's being hit, where the players are, 15:28and really bring a visualization to life, and layered stats and data on top of that. 15:32Jacob: Is that sort of like, when I'm watching a match on TV and there's 15:36a close call, is the ball in or out, and they do that thing where they 15:39kind of show a sort of video game version of where the ball landed. 15:42Does it look like that? 15:43Brian: It's like that, but for every single shot. 15:45So it's not just those close ones. 15:47It's our first foray to bring that match to life. 15:51Jacob: And so what do I see on that kind of view that I don't see 15:53from whatever, watching the video? 15:54Brian: Yeah, so one, you'll be able just to see more of the ball trajectory 15:58and where the ball's being hit, but then you can also start layering things 16:02in stats and insights on top of that. 16:03So how many times has Player A hit the ball on a certain baseline? 16:08How fast are they hitting it? 16:10Maybe their served percentage at a certain side of the court, et cetera. 16:13So you can really start layering in for the ones that really 16:15want to dive deep into the- 16:17Jacob: It's for the nerds, it's for the... 16:18It's the information rich. 16:20Brian: Exactly. 16:21It's the strategy of tennis. 16:23It really should be an interesting way to slice and dice a match. 16:26Jacob: Huh. 16:27Malcolm: It's remarkable how the USTA is leveraging AI to enhance 16:30fan engagement and deliver immersive experiences both onsite and online. 16:36Brian's emphasis on storytelling really underscores the 16:40evolution of sports marketing. 16:42The SlamTracker feature particularly caught my attention. 16:45It's essentially bringing the excitement of a tennis match to 16:48life in your palm moment by moment. 16:52As someone who appreciates the narrative intricacies of sports, I 16:56find it compelling how AI helps predict and analyze matches in real time. 17:02Jacob: Tell me about the AI commentary feature. 17:05Brian: Yeah, I know I mentioned AI highlights back in 2018. 17:09It's now progressed for us and again, if we go back to before we had AI 17:13highlights, to have a highlight ready for the site it was a video editor 17:18cutting the highlight, it getting voiced over, and then being published to the 17:21site, and it took probably an hour+ for that highlight to really be created. 17:27Now with AI commentary, not only are we creating and cutting the highlights 17:31using our AI technology, but it's now using all the data points that we have 17:35around the match, whether it's our live scoring data, our ball trajectory data, et 17:39cetera, and it's really creating a script to help story-tell around that match, 17:43and that's all using watsonx technology. 17:46And then using text to speech, we're able to actually then create the 17:49commentary on top of that, which all happens now within minutes. 17:53So our team's able to now create fully voiced highlights for 17:56every men's and women's singles match to our site within minutes. 18:01Jacob: So I know there's a new feature you're working on for 18:03this year called Match Reports. 18:05Brian: Yes. 18:06Jacob: What are Match Reports? 18:08Brian: It's our ability to succinctly tell the story of a match. 18:13So everything that happens in five hours within that match, down to 18:17a couple paragraphs that really helps a user understand or a fan 18:21understand what just happened. 18:23Again, some key stats, what's upcoming, really help us with that storytelling. 18:27In the past, when we have 22 courts happening at a certain time, we would 18:32have to pick and choose which stories we think, or which matches we think 18:35are going to have the best stories, and that's a really hard thing to 18:38predict from an editorial perspective. 18:40With our match reports now, we'll be able to have full coverage of every 18:43single match during the main draw. 18:45Jacob: So of course I want to talk about generative AI. 18:48How could we not talk about generative AI? 18:50Brian: Of course. 18:51Jacob: What are you working on with generative AI? 18:53Brian: So Match Reports is the prime example of it. 18:55So Match reports would be completely using watsonx generative AI technology. 18:59And really, again, to us it's, how can we do that storytelling at scale? 19:05Tennis is such a data rich sport. 19:08All sports have data, but tennis has a lot of shots, and different shot 19:11types, and ball trajectory, and live scoring data, and umpire chair data, 19:15and crowd, and all of that factoring in. 19:18Generative AI really helps us take some of that structured and unstructured 19:22data, really one, organize it in a way, but then help us quickly tell 19:27that story at scale to all of our fans. 19:30And I think we're really just starting to scratch at some of the capabilities, 19:34and we're really excited about where we're being, but we also see the 19:37opportunity of even how we can grow to new fans, and new fans around the 19:41world using generative AI in the future. 19:45Jacob: I'm curious, and you alluded to this a moment ago, but I'd like 19:49to talk a little bit more about it. 19:50It seems interesting as a technical problem is, the nature of turning 19:57tennis matches into stories, which is fundamentally what we're talking about 20:00here in different ways and different media, is about taking both structured 20:06data, like the stats points, stats matches, and also unstructured data 20:13like commentary, and articles, and the kind of fuzzier parts of storytelling. 20:18And so I'm curious how AI kind of helps you manage both the 20:22structured and the unstructured data. 20:24Brian: So I think the structured data is pretty self-explanatory, but when 20:29you get into the unstructured data and some of the punditry, that's where you 20:31get more of the opinion pieces into it. 20:34Like a specific player matchup, this player always plays well 20:37against so-and-so, or they always play well at night, or they're 20:40a fan favorite and the crowd... 20:42Adrenaline and the crowd being behind you can really motivate 20:46you to play a lot better. 20:47So it pulls in all those unstructured pieces and helps us really put some 20:52more rigor around it, and help add and enrich our storytelling with it. 20:56Jacob: And so I'm curious, when you're starting to use generative 21:00AI over the past few years, what were your concerns going into that? 21:04Brian: I think our biggest concern is ensuring that one, factually it 21:09is correct, because it's only as good as the data you feed in, and how do 21:12you really ensure that your model's working right, and that the output and 21:16the data you're feeding it matches the output, and how do you do that at scale? 21:19So we do have a lot of human intervention. 21:22That's where the IBM consulting team, they're on site with us for those full 21:25three weeks really helping us review everything and we're constantly learning, 21:29especially early in the tournament. 21:31And I would say the other big concern, again it goes around to 21:34the data is, what data do we have available that is trustworthy? 21:38So we are feel very confident with the data that comes off of court, but 21:41when we get into that unstructured piece, what are the right data sources? 21:45How do we validate those data sources, and how do we ensure that they're 21:50accurate, because the data that has to go in has to be accurate for the output. 21:54Jacob: So how do you do that? 21:55That's the concern. 21:56How do you address it? 21:58Brian: Yeah, so I think there's a number of tools that we use, 22:01all within the watsonx umbrella. 22:03We do a lot of training with the IBM team, so we have to constantly 22:06train and retrain that model. 22:09I think the other piece that we're doing is, again, as we're creating that 22:13content and we have the IBM consulting team on site helping us with that, is 22:17as we see things and we see outputs, it's re-feeding that back into the model 22:21to make it better for the next time. 22:23So it's a constantly learning process that we're undergoing. 22:27Jacob: So I want to talk about scale. 22:29Brian: Yes. 22:30Jacob: You have what, 22 different courts with matches going all at the same time. 22:36You're trying to approximately instantly generate summaries of all these 22:41matches in something like real time. 22:43And I'm curious, in particular how the IBM models you're using, the IBM 22:48granite models are helping you scale? 22:51Brian: Yeah, so I think one of the big learnings we had with IBM granite 22:56models too is that we're able to run it against last year's tournaments 23:01and see what the expected outputs could be, and really help train that 23:05model heading into the tournament. 23:06Because as we talked about in the beginning is, we can plan, plan, 23:09plan, but once two players get on court, the outcome is unknown. 23:12So how do we really run it through its paces, and really make sure that whatever 23:16that outcome could be, and whatever that scenario is, whether it's a fifth 23:20set tie-break that happens, or maybe there's a fault at the end the match or 23:25something that we're not anticipating, that we have that accounted for, and 23:29that the A won't throw off that output. 23:30So we really try to think through every scenario, which is sometimes difficult 23:36because again, live sports is the unknown, is the unknown, that's what makes it fun. 23:40We do spend a lot of time thinking through potential scenarios, and 23:43ensuring that we have the right data sets and the model to predict that. 23:48Jacob: Tell me about Match Reports and the generative AI model you're using for that. 23:53Brian: So Match Reports will be new for us this year, so we're in testing right 23:57now, so we're really excited around it. 23:59But the model that we'll be able use using watsonx will use a bunch of 24:04different parts of the suite of tools, meaning that again, taking some of 24:08that punditry and the unstructured data and the editorial spin, it'll 24:11take our structured data as well. 24:13And really what we're working on right now is figuring out the right 24:17prompts for the AI to really ensure that it tells the right structured 24:22story, meaning what just happened. 24:25So a recap is pretty standard. 24:27Here's what the data's telling us, who won, who lost how many sets? 24:30Here's the score. 24:31Jacob: That's the structured data part. 24:32That's the easy part. 24:33Brian: And then really where it gets exciting is then, what does 24:36this mean, meaning, what's upcoming? 24:39So there's all these different scenarios when you get into 254 24:43players and a large draw, this allows us to distill that down and really 24:46tell what could happen upcoming. 24:49The AI helps us do that at scale. 24:52Jacob: So I want to generalize for a moment to talk about broader challenges 24:57with AI and how you've solved them. 25:00A lot of generative AI pilots fail because the data quality isn't high enough, 25:06because the risk controls aren't there. 25:08And so I'm curious how you dealt with those problems, and are dealing with them. 25:13Brian: Data quality, again, we feel calm with the data that is supplied from 25:18the US Open and from the USTA, right? 25:20So we have, again, that's our structured scoring data and all of that. 25:24I think what we're constantly looking at is when we get outside of 25:27our known sources and out to third parties, is that's where a lot of 25:30the testing and model work happens. 25:33So we pull in different data sources and really try to work 25:36through how it changes that output. 25:38Again, some of that comes down to where it's an open model and the 25:41transparency that we have, and the learning that comes behind it. 25:45That's where a lot of that confidence can come from, and it comes from a lot 25:48of testing and feeding it more data. 25:51Your second question was a little bit more around the output, I believe, right? 25:55Jacob: And risks, right? 25:57So risks, I think of risks more in terms of output, right? 26:00Brian: Yeah. 26:00Jacob: The obvious fear is like, what if it says something wrong, 26:03or inflammatory, or whatever. 26:07That seems scary. 26:07Brian: Yeah, it definitely is, and it was definitely one of our largest 26:10concerns when we first took this foray. 26:13I would say a lot of that comes through our work with IBM and the IBM 26:16consulting team, and really ensuring that, again, they're an extension in 26:20the partnership there of our team. 26:22So whenever we are creating, let's say it's the Match Report, and we're 26:25going to be creating these succinct articles for every single men's and 26:29women's single match that happens, is all of those will have manual review, 26:33and people looking through them for accuracy to ensure that the model 26:36didn't hallucinate or make up a fact, or fill in the gaps and things like that. 26:40That's the first step. 26:42And then also when our editorial team goes to publish those to the website, 26:45they're going to be checking it as well. 26:47So there are manual interventions throughout that to really check that 26:50model, but we feel that the ability to do it at scale and with us more to 26:55check that, is the efficiency problem that we've been looking to solve. 26:59Jacob: So the USTA and IBM have been working together on digital innovation 27:03for like 30 years, from the first website for the USTA until now. 27:09So that's the past 30 years. 27:11If you look ahead, what's the next 30? 27:15Brian: 30 years is a really long time. 27:16Jacob: How about three? 27:17Brian: Yeah. 27:18I think where I get excited, and I alluded to it in the beginning about 27:23how I feel like we're just scratching at the surface, especially with generative 27:27AI and where I see it going is, there's a lot of different fans out there. 27:31And we're also very cognizant of the US Open that we're a worldwide event, 27:34and that there's a lot of different fans that we're not necessarily 27:37creating content for bespoke. 27:40Meaning, in their native language, or maybe it's in that native player's 27:44language, and things like that is... 27:46Where I get excited is we've seen immense growth with AI highlights, and the 27:49ability to now do highlights at scale is the ability for us to start creating 27:54content in different languages, maybe covering different parts of the match. 27:58So maybe you do have that stats junkie who really wants just, it's the fastest 28:02serve and here's the deep insights, versus the casual fan who's looking 28:06for more of the storytelling around how a player trains, and what leading up 28:10to it was like, and what it means for them afterwards, and things like that. 28:14A lot of that takes a lot of time. 28:16Now we're able to solve that efficiency problem and do it in multiple languages. 28:20We can really create, I want to say personalized content to a lot more 28:24fans all around the world which, again, helps us grow the sport of tennis. 28:29Jacob: Great. 28:30So I want to finish with the speed round. 28:33Brian: Okay. 28:34Jacob: Are you ready? 28:35Brian: I am ready. 28:36Jacob: Okay. 28:36First thing that comes to mind, complete this sentence. 28:40In five years, AI will- 28:42Brian: Transform many parts of the business. 28:45Jacob: What is the number one thing that people misunderstand about AI? 28:50Brian: That it's supplemental, not replacing. 28:53Meaning that it helps with efficiencies, but it doesn't necessarily 28:57replace the creativity right now. 29:00Jacob: What advice would you give yourself 10 years ago to 29:03better prepare you for today? 29:06Brian: I think it would've been, especially now that we're able to 29:10take so much of that unstructured data and pass content that we... 29:14Were created to help tell stories, was to, I want to say archive more 29:19of that in a way that we could be using that to help pull from that now. 29:24So we've seen kind of a change in the guard from some of our star 29:28players to now new and up and comers, and it would be really fascinating 29:32to me if there was a way to cross section some of that and saying what 29:36trajectories are certain up and coming players may be following from others. 29:40So it's more, I wish we kept more of the content we created back- 29:44Jacob: Save the data. 29:45Brian: Yeah, exactly. 29:46Jacob: That's what you're telling yourself, save the data. 29:47Brian: Exactly. 29:48Jacob: Well, are you saving it all now? 29:49Brian: Oh yeah, 100%, we learned our lesson. 29:51Yes, yes. 29:52Jacob: Okay. 29:53So on the business side of AI, what do you think is the next big thing? 29:57Brian: I alluded to it earlier. 29:58I think it's personalization and getting content that's catered to 30:02you at scale, whether that's across the sports sphere, or any type of 30:07written content or news content. 30:10I feel like the ability to really get [inaudible] to the type of 30:14fan you are and the insights you have is where we're all headed. 30:19Jacob: And in terms of your non-work life, how do you use AI day to day? 30:25Brian: It's funny, I was just having this conversation with a friend the 30:28other day and we were talking about that sometimes when you're starting 30:31something new, the hardest thing to do is you have a blank piece of paper or 30:35a thought, and how do you get started? 30:38Sometimes with these generative models, the easiest thing and the best thing 30:42you can do is it helps you get started. 30:44Meaning it may not be a hundred percent with that first prompt, but 30:46it's that efficiency of, whether it's an outline for a new idea, or it's 30:50a marketing brief you have to write. 30:52Or sometimes even if it's an email you have to write for a personal something 30:56and you're not sure how to word it the right way, it allows you to have a 31:00start, and then you can edit from there. 31:01So again, going back to my efficiency point, it helps you become more efficient. 31:06Jacob: It solves the blank page problem. 31:07Brian: It does. 31:09Jacob: Brian, it was great to talk with you. 31:11Thank you so much for your time. 31:12Brian: Yeah, this was fun. 31:13Thanks for having me. 31:13[MG OUTRO] 31:16Malcolm: A huge thanks to Jacob and Brian for the deep dive into 31:19the cutting-edge innovations transforming the game of tennis. 31:23Brian shed light on how the US Open’s Partnership with IBM is 31:27harnessing data-driven insights to reshape storytelling in sports, from 31:32AI-generated commentary to match reports. 31:36As we look ahead, I’m excited about the possibilities for personalizing 31:40content and reaching fans in new ways. 31:43The future of AI promises more than just efficiency—it's about 31:48enhancing fan experiences worldwide. 31:51[END CREDITS] 31:54Smart Talks with IBM is produced by Matt Romano, Joey 31:57Fischground, and Jacob Goldstein. 31:59We’re edited by Lidia Jean Kott. 32:01Our engineers are Sarah Brugueire [Brew-Ghare [hard G!]] , and 32:04Ben Tolliday. 32:05Theme song by Gramoscope. 32:08Special thanks to the 8Bar and IBM teams, as well as the Pushkin marketing team. 32:13Smart Talks with IBM is a production of Pushkin Industries 32:16and Ruby Studio at iHeartMedia. 32:19To find more Pushkin podcasts, listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 32:25or wherever you listen to podcasts. 32:28I’m Malcolm Gladwell. 32:30This is a paid advertisement from IBM. 32:32The conversations on this podcast don't necessarily represent IBM's 32:37positions, strategies or opinions.